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My soapbox rant - and then an update.

January 12th, 2013 at 11:38 pm

It is frustrating to read some of the blog responses on certain blogs lately. I have always valued this site because it encourages our community to post whats on your mind- the good, the bad and the ugly..in return, it is the readers choice to read or not and if they choose, are welcome to respond. If a blogger chooses to take or to ignore advice, so be it- we all learn something here everyday and some people just make changes in their own time. Live and let live.

Are we enablers, then? I dont think we are. I think we encourage, support, and leave it up to the blogger to do with as they will. My philosophy is.. even small changes are good. Why this seems to irritate some of the non-members is beyond me. But to keep picking at someone who blogs here is ridiculous to me. If you dont like the blog, dont read it.

*stepping off the soapbox now*

Last night was GS's (age 8) turn to stay the night. We had a good time. I worry about this little guy...I suspect he may be autistic...but DD2 is having a hard time getting a diagnosis. Right now he is being treated for ADHD, but I am not convinced it is a completely accurate diagnosis. Anyways, we had such a fun night. We had popcorn and watched a movie..and he made me his 'special' of the night....rootbeer with whipped cream. lol. It was actually not bad- and he was so proud. This morning, we met DD1 and my ex-brother-in-law J(kids uncle) for breakfast- is is J's birthday. I treated- $36 for the four of us.

Then, I took GS home. DD2's house was showing signs that she is a single mom with 3 small kids (GS-8, GD-4 and Z- almost 2), and is working lots of hours to try to make ends meet. So I stayed and helped clean for a couple of hours- I could tell she really appreciated the help and the clean house.

This afternoon, I am going to DD1s- SIL made me homemade tamales (yum!) and we are going to watch the Packers/49ers game. I offered to bring chips and dip, refried beans and drinks. I spent $24.

Tomorrow, DD2 is coming over with the kids so that we can work on her budget. Hopefully, we can come up with a plan that will work a little better for her..right now, she struggles from paycheck to paycheck and some of her benefits are about to get cut because she worked extra in December.

17 Responses to “My soapbox rant - and then an update.”

  1. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Amen! In total agreement with your rant. I think what we have here is pretty special. We don't always just pat each other on the back - we do offer advice and nudges towards different ways of thinking about something - but it almost always in the spirit of encouragement and caring. I think some of the recent commentators on a post may not really understand the culture of our family/community, and that came across in their comments.

  2. scfr Says:
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    Feeling clueless ... I think I must have missed something...

  3. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    re soapbox: you are right in that none of us as far as I can tell are enablers. My SUSPICION is that some people who know someone in real life and are dismayed with that person's progress and decision making aren't paying attention to the "learning" and "path" keywords in the person's blog title and subtitle and instead are being judgmental on one post. I don't know why that one post in particular garnered so much attention.

  4. twest Says:
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    Totally agree as well. One of the biggest problems it seemed to me was someone that hasn't said anything ever to anyone and then all of a sudden seem to be attacking.....Just didn't seem appropriate.

    Glad you had a great time with the grandkids.

  5. LuckyRobin Says:
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    There is a difference between constructive criticism and cyberbullying. I think some of those commenting on that blog were bordering on the latter. At the very least they were being unkind in their responses, and one person was being quite mean-spirited and condescending. One can be kind while still pointing out what might have been done differently. One can be encouraging without being enabling. Nice over nasty, positive over negative. Do I support everything that blogger does? No, but I do support her and I would never dream of tearing her down for her mistakes. What good does that do anyone?

  6. North Georgia Gal Says:
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    Thanks guys for your support. I can't say that all the negative comments haven't affected me. It makes me think twice before I post a blog.

  7. MonkeyMama Says:
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    "If you dont like the blog, dont read it."

    I think that pretty much sums it up!

  8. mjrube94 Says:
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    Holy Crow...Reminds me of my favorite quote: Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind". (Dr. Seuss). Everyone makes progress at their own rate, and everyone does something that others may find head-scratching. Heck, my dog goes to day care. The regulars here are supportive without being enabling and for that, I appreciate you all.

  9. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Scfr -
    Check the Most Talked About Entries section - currently has 44 comments.

  10. rob62521 Says:
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    I was behind on reading....sorry about the highly critical remarks that some made. I am sure they felt very judgmental. I am with you, I feel like our blogs are just a way to communicate with our sa friends and learn and struggle with each other.

  11. Maranatha Says:
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    I apologize if I upset anyone in that thread. I see alot of the regular people who got upset about the comments to the op coming on here all of the time talking about their neighbors and co-workers who blow money and then complain about being broke and not being able to afford neccessities afterward. Seems pretty hypocritical to me. I guess that must be different somehow, depends on who's being talked about. Anyway, I'll be deleting my blog. Sorry to have upset your little group here! I wish now that I'd never come out of lurking!

  12. Thrifty Ray Says:
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    Maranatha-

    I doubt anyone here, myself at the top of the list, meant to send the message that you should delete your blog. Quite the contrary, stay and blog - your financial journey is just as important as the next blogger's. Some of the other responders were being more critical in their comments and just kept picking apart the blog.

    As LR said the difference is constructive criticism vs cyberbullying. I havent read all of your responses, but have a feeling your comments alone would not have caused the closing of the ranks of the community here...there were others who were much more critical and vocal.

    I hope you reconsider deleting your post with the knowledge that you will be encouraged, supported, offered advice, etc...and if you are ever on the receiving end of mean-spirited responders, the community will close ranks and let you know that you are supported.

  13. mimipaula1 Says:
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    @thriftyray: Thank you for all that you do to help your DD and her three children. Being a single mother is not an easy task! I appreciate your efforts to bless her and your g-children with some extra "love" (help).

  14. MonkeyMama Says:
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    I felt initially that maranatha was being overly dramatic, BUT, I did see a couple of SA-ers be pretty nasty (said she didn't have the "right" to post). I think one didn't even realize she was a SA blogger. SO - we apologize for that Maranatha. Obviously not everyone feels that way. But, anyway, I do hope you stay too. I now understand how you felt ganged up on.

    I don't think any of us *see* this hypocricy. I have personally never gone up to anyone and ripped them a new one because I didn't agree with their financial choices. My personal behavior is very consistent in real life and online. & of course I will always be overly protective of my "family." BUT, I personally do not generally treat people different either way. Online, real life, part of a community, anonymous outsider commenter. But if any "outsider" senses over-coddling of our own, it is fair enough. We are family - some of us have been here for YEARS and have forged deep friendships. I am sure I have illogically defended one my own at some point or other. Excuse us for being human.

    I also don't expect everyone to be a financial superstar. If you aren't a total a-hole, I generally give you a wide pass. NGG has always been very nice, so I have never had any motivation to be anything but nice back to her. & beyond all that, everyone here is "trying." So, if you are "trying" and you don't pick at me for choosing to live within my means (which people have always picked on me very much in real life), then you get an "A" in my book. This is a community of forward progress and trying. That is all I ever ask of anyone. NGG is so much better off than most of the people I know in real life, financially, it isn't even funny. Doesn't mean she can't improve and move forward significantly. BUT, I also have a strong sense that she could do MUCH worse.

  15. Thrifty Ray Says:
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    Well said MonkeyMama!

    And minipaula1- thank you. Very kind words for a gramma to hear!

  16. PNW Mom Says:
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    Some posters were just plain mean. And there definately is a difference between criticism and bullying. They are entitled to their opinion of course, but to me....it is all in the way it is said and it's "tone".

  17. laura Says:
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    I used the word "right" in reference to unknown bloggers banding together to exercise "tough love". Of course every post is open to comments; and criticism that is constructive can be valuable, criticism that cuts to the core just makes someone feel worse about themselves, sort of "kicking them when they're down." Didn't seem at all right to me, especially when you see the strides that NGG made.

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